From: Alfred Lehmberg <alienview.nul>
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:46:18 -0600
Fwd Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:59:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Blind Faith In Human Science & Mathematics -


>From: Ray Dickenson <ray.dickenson.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 23:04:16 +0000
>Subject: Blind Faith In Human Science & Mathematics

>Hurriedly recommend a second hard look at "blind science" if
>still clinging to faith in human science or mathematics.

>It makes clear that -

>a) astrophysics has been wrong on almost every call made till
>now.

>The names of astronomical phenomena are all wrong because the
>scientists thought they were something other.

>Check the new solar systems being found; Newtonian physics said
>'impossble' but the universe disagrees.

>b) mathematics is merely a human invention which may or may not
>apply to the universe. Einstein said ""When mathematics tries to
>talk about reality - it's inaccurate, when mathematics is
>accurate - it's not talking about reality".

>While common sense gives respect for arithmetic, because
>integers - whole numbers - can represent real things, "advanced"
>mathematics is conceptual, having no automatic correlation with
>physical existence.

>Profs Stewart & Cohen (and Lee Smolin) agree on that - take
>Smolin's quote "I have never heard a good a priori argument that
>the world must be organized according to mathematical
>principles."

>[Other real experts' quotes are in text or links - in full.]


I'm astonished that smart people can so insistently delude
themselves that they have the remotest grasp on what really
happens in the cosmos around us. Five very narrow banded senses
only get about 2% at best.

Sure, be proud of an academic persistence and a willingness to
pay more tuition so you can lord it over the less blessed, but
don't think for a moment that your beliefs, scientific or
otherwise, are any more or less accurate than another's, even if
they might appear in the short-run to approximate the precepts
of those, actually pretty convenient, precepts... To operate any
other way is to have the corrosive mainstream relevancy of Dr.
Laura, Rush Limbaugh, Jerry Fallwell, or Philip Klass.

We were making some pretty bad assumptions as late as 50 years
ago. Things change or die.

Stuart Miller recently wrote:

"OK, lets tell everybody about it and bugger the consequences.
Possible economic collapse? Rocketing suicide rate? Massive
increases in mental dysfunction as faith in religion crumbles?
Deep depression within the scientific community as it realizes
it knows nothing and now won't be able to discover anything new
by itself? Terror at the prospect of an invasion? Terror at the
prospect of malevolent bacterial invasion? The trauma that many
will feel at the realization that far from being at the top of
the tree that they're the galactic equivalent of an ant? Who
cares!! At least we've got the prestige of announcing all this
to the world. Wow. Folks will be real grateful."

I remember back to a period of 60 years ago when I think it's
pretty obvious, even being conservative, that the ET hypothesis
was the obvious hypothesis...

We had an opportunity, during a time of chaotic turmoil
_anyway_, to grasp this conundrum by the shirt-tails, then! It
was an opportunity missed.  60 years later we still suffer the
smirks, slings, and sneers of brain-dead klasskurtzians who crow
that they own the high ground with regard to science and
rationality when nothing could be further from the truth.
Increasingly they are the tedious partisan-hack-ideologues of
outmoded conventional wisdoms devoid of imagination rationality,
humility,validity, courage, and intelligence, only - caricatures
of a pompous and outdated status-quo. Consider that one of their
revered patron saints is Philip Klass to begin to appreciate the
depth of their intellectual failure and the breadth of their
self-imposed ignorance - their lack of verity.

I know where Stuart Miller was coming from, and this is not
criticism of him, but Economic collapse looks like it might be
happening anyway. Suicides might only be doing themselves and us
a favor, actually, forgetting they were likely to be few in the
first place, and too close to the edge anyway, in the second.
Mental dysfunction is on an upward trend regardless, and might
even be _caused_ by the duplicity and cruelty our aggregate
culture visits on us! Scientific Depression would likely only be
experienced by those who were 'too' comfortable in a 'position'
and were loath to redo work. Real scientists would rejoice that
another layer of fallacy has come off the truth and a _real_
game is afoot! We're already terrorized by invasion, anyway!
We're already terrorized by infestation, anyway. Our inflated
hubris, lowest-common-denominator spirituality, and pompous
homocentricity was RIPE for a righteous bubble busting!

Besides, as individuals there is no need to feel in any way
diminished. Individually, one can be made more than one was with
the loss of the terrible ignorance imposed from above.

Seriously, if we'd come clean 60 years ago we'd already have an
old population who never knew the duplicity, the soulless
corporate horror, the dumbing down, and ignorance by decree. I
think we'd be inhabiting a living ring we'd built in the belt
between Mars and Jupiter. Where would we be 60 years hence?

Bad news won't improve with age. And you know? I'm betting the
news ain't that bad. Disclosure now.


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