From: Christopher Allan <cda.nul>
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 20:22:48 +0100
Fwd Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 11:26:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Friedman/Shostak Debate - Allan


>From: Stanton Friedman <fsphys.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 10:44:42 -0300
>Subject: Re: Friedman/Shostak Debate

>>From: Christopher Allan <cda.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:54:35 +0100
>>Subject: Re: Friedman/Shostak Debate

<snip>

>I am glad that CDA can get inside everybody's mind when it is
>convenient for his scenarios. Wescott wanted out because he
>didn't want to waste his time dealing with attacks from Klass et
>al. The Briefing officer was Hillenkoetter (DCI in September,
>1947) but we know from a memo from W.B. Smith to Truman dated
>January 9, 1953, (in my Final Report) that Smith, who had worked
>very closely with Ike during WW 2, and was DCI in 1952, was,
>generally speaking, in charge of national Security briefings for
>Ike between the election and Ike's inauguration. Hilly would
>have been contact with him prior to the Nov. 18, 1952 briefing.
>It doesn't seem unlikely the EBE would have been typed at the
>CIA.


So Stan is now telling us that:

1. The T-F memo was written by someone in Bush's office. The
numeric part of the date being added by Bush before despatch.
This implies that Truman could not compose even a brief 10-line
memo himself. He had to get a third (or fourth) party to do it.

[I should add that Stan has never shown that Bush even saw this
memo since there is no cc list to show it was sent to anyone
other than Forrestal.]

2. The Hillenkoetter-Ike paper was likely written by someone in
the CIA, presumably because H needed advice & help in writing
it.

Also, STF says the CIA was so concerned that the T-F copy memo
had no signature, that they had to lift one from a 5-year old
document. But in so doing H omitted his own signature on the
briefing! (Presumably he either forgot or decided his signature
was less important than getting Truman's, by devious means).

3. The Cutler-Twining memo was not written by Cutler, since he
was out of the country. Again, a third person wrote it
(according to STF.)


Thus we have the position that Stan, in order to maintain that
all three papers are authentic, has to tell us that none of them
was in fact written by its indicated author!

Truly amazing.

I wonder what the CIA or Hillenkoetter would have done had the
'missing' T-F original (with T's signature) suddenly turned up
after H sent his briefing to Ike!

The CIA would then have egg on its face and be forced to find a
way out of their predicament, since they would then have in
their possession one T-F memo with one Truman signature and the
same memo with a different Truman signature (i.e. the one lifted
from another document).

Let's get real for once: no CIA agent with even half a brain
would ever try to transplant the signature of a serving
President from one document. to another.


CDA