From: Josh Goldstein <clearlight@t-online.de>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 02:29:14 +0100
Fwd Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:59:03 -0500
Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid - Goldstein


 >From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid
 >Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:47:01 -0600

 >>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >>Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid
 >>Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:55:27 -0600

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 >>Quite the contrary. It's people like Cooper who lead the
 >>gullible

 >..... remembering theat people are prone to gullibility for more
 >reasons than just their own miserable faults. They're leery in
 >the suspicious example of self serving institutions, and with
 >some concern look for alternative explanations to the
 >turbulences of their lives that they don't find at *home* in the
 >mainstream anymore. When Cooper starts to look like he hangs
 >together a little better than a *likely* report from a jealous
 >mainstream, that's when you begin to suspect that you've been
 >dealt a truly bogus hand.

 >>and the frightened

 >..... And they'd be a lot less frightened if they were getting
 >anything remotely resembling the straight poop from those same
 >self serving institutions that artlessly manipulate them about
 >the whats and whys of stuff that threatens them in their
 >lives...

 >>away from truth
 >>..... and no one has a dead lock nut on that, to my knowledge.
 >But we know that if it _can_ be, then it _will_ be, eventually.

 >>not to mention sanity and common sense.

 >There's a panoply of different potentials for degraded sanity of
 >all flavors when your society's perceived as hijacked, sir, and
 >the expressions of individuals regarding that threat are likely
 >to be creatively divergent. They always have been. Thank g_d for
 >that. And one man's common sense can be another's privileged
 >assumption, and still another's artful dodge. Some sociopaths
 >can just ooze *common sense...*

 >>Ufology has seen many of them over the
 >>course of its history, and Cooper was as bad as they come.

 >Still... what is it that provided the validity for Cooper,
 >that's the thing that slips off furtively into the unadmitted
 >shadows. Forget Cooper, what _makes_ Cooper.


Hi Alf,

To answer your question of "what made Cooper?":

Paranoid Schizophrenia. His imbalanced neurotransmitters made
his brain go /////////;l;l;æ'?'[]=;][l,'Å,, :

I don't remember if you saw him perform live or met him
personally. If you did, then I fail to see how even you would
try to defend him. I just posted that if you would just look at
his newsletter and learn what he has done to other people you
would not ask that question. I sure hope you don't harbor any
illusions that he died as some sort of counter cultural hero in
that police shootout. He was as crazed as a rabid dog and just
baiting the police to get into a gunfight. The crazed Cooper was
too cowardly to surrender and instead shot a good family man,
his wife, and kids. All I want to do is forget about Cooper and
I hope everyone else does.

Alf, sheepishly speaking, sometimes you just get my goat. That's
in plain English with a direct and profound meaning.

You crack me up. Your positions on what is happening on this
planet, in the cosmos, and its relationship to other humans is
that most people have been manipulated by the controlled mass
media propaganda machinery serving those who hijacked our
society. They do not see things as do you and a handful of
visionaries. You have created your own duality that all mass
media are controlled together and you have kicked them all over
to the dark side of the fence. On the white side of the fence
are you and the alternative media to set the people and the
planet free.

Alf, this is the information age, A great many prople are on the
internet and access just about any point of view on just about
every subject, except government secrets. Thousands of book
titles of all kinds are in print. A lot of people also look at
both mass media and alternative media then do something
miraculous, think for themselves and care for all else.

Just who are these hijackers of our society, in your opinon?

I never met John Ford. I just read a lot of things those years
and saw some video, etc. My question to you is: Why do the
courts and a lot of people in the UFO field think he has a
mental problem? Does that add strong fuel to your fire against
those "self serving entities" who have manipulated the people
through the mass media?

Alf, maybe some people are gullible simply because they have not
learned to think the things through on a deeper level before
they are hooked. People who prey on gullible people have a well
developed appeal to emotions and fears that can be overpowering
to people who don't have a strong sense of self. They are
looking for something and the emotional pull blots out reason,
so now they feel they belong, empowered members of something
that helps with their fears. They are too gullible to see it is
a foolish path, one that usually ends up with its members having
personally suffered from its demands.


Bye for now,

Josh