From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:55:19 EDT
Fwd Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:20:51 -0400
Subject: Disclosure Project Witnesses


Good Morning, List, All -

I have waited to see what happened with Greer's Project
Disclosure and to see if anyone bothered to do a little more
research into those 'insiders' who came forward to tell their
tales of government intrigue, conspiracy, and duplicity. Most
have taken a wait and see attitude while a few have suggested
that, at the very least, Greer is doing something to expose the
problem.

The point is that this whole thing hinges on the credibility of
those 'insiders' who have little or nothing in the way of
documentation and validation. We are left with only the stories
they tell and their claims of their inside positions. The
problem, as I have pointed out before, is that some of those
'insiders' don't seem to be who they claim to be.

Since Nick brought him up in the press release he wrote, let's
take a look at Cliff Stone, a Sergeant First Class with some
twenty-two years of military service. In the Vol. 50, No. 6,
1998 issue of UFO Magazine (US version), Stone wrote, "Four
years of my 22 ½ years in the military were spent in the
Republic of Vietnam."

Well, not quite, according to Stone's record. Very few men spent
four years in Vietnam and Stone wasn't one of them. He spent
three years there. Not much of an exaggeration, but an
exaggeration, none the less. I confess that I don't understand
the need to expand his Vietnam service to four years. I spent
just 11 months and 20 days in Vietnam and am quick to point out
that I had a single tour. Stone's record reflects a single tour,
but one that lasted about three times as long as mine.

Stone, in that same article wrote, "On my arrival, I was
assigned to 277 S&S Battalion Headquarters Company. I was never
trained as a clerk typist, although that was my MOS [military
occupation speciality]."

Well, not quite. He was assigned to the Headquarters and
Headquarters Company of the 227th S&S Battalion. I suppose this
is a mistake that can be attributed to a typographical error on
either Stone's or the magazine's part.

The real problem arises with his claim not to be trained as a
clerk/typist. According to the record, he spent eight weeks in
1968 in a military school learning how to be a clerk/typist. His
only other military training came about fourteen years later
when he attended an Army NCO school for five weeks, and in 1989
when he attended a seven week course labeled as 'Head Start'.

So, he was not only trained as a clerk/typist, all his military
assignments from that point on are as a clerk or administration
supervisor with a couple of short term assignments as a
'Detachment Sergeant' for about ten months and later as a Chief
Admin Clerk. He received no special training and there is nothing
to suggest any special assignments that would put him into a
position to see all the UFO related things he has claimed.

Finally, in what is going to sound rather snobbish, he had no
formal education beyond high school. The question that begs to
be asked here is why would the Army bring a high school
graduate, with training only as a clerk/typist into an
assignment that would require special training and, at the very
least, some specialized college education? Why would they do
this when they had access to highly trained specialists with
security clearances, and who could bring their special expertise
to bear on the subject. Stone might have been called in to type
the formal documents and to administer the paper work, but he
wouldn't have been given access to much of the specialized
information. And, of course, there is nothing in his record
about such a special assignment, which there should be, if it
existed.

Yes, you can speculate that Cliff's record was modified to cover
his covert assignments, but there is nothing there to indicate
this is the case. The assignments are routine and the chronology
is unbroken, and if he was doing what he claimed to be doing,
the notations for his assignments, while not being specific,
would be there to read. It is quite clear what he was doing,
when he was doing it, and why he was doing it. There really is
no time for him to be doing the covert UFO work that he claims.

By way of contrast, those men who were on special assignments,
who carried out the covert operations in Vietnam, show some
indications in their records of those highly classified
missions. There are records of the special schools they had
attended, of assignments that put them into the right areas at
the rights times, and other hints that suggest their service
wasn't routine. In Stone's case, none of those hints are there.
He was a clerk/typist for his military career, received no
special training and had no education from a civilian
institution that would have made his insights valuable.

If a journalist, interested in Greer's Project Disclosure
attempted to learn more about Stone, this is what he would find.
Since Stone's story of 57 alien races involved in the
exploration of Earth is almost all of Greer's information about
the alien physical presence (meaning he is the one who talked of
seeing bodies of aliens), Stone's story is one of the first to
be investigated. Since there is no substance to it, no
documentation to corroborate it, those journalists will reject
it as fantasy, and they will then wonder about the caliber of
Greer's other insiders.

Greer could have avoided this problem simply by checking out the
information himself. It's not difficult to obtain and provides
an interesting glimpse into Stone's background. And it points to
problems that will develop, not only with Stone's story, but
with, at a minimum, three other stories promoted by Greer.

There are enough of these sorts of problems that anything of
value that Greer and his Disclosure Project might have developed
will be lost. If he, meaning Greer, hasn't bothered to check the
backgrounds of his participants carefully enough to screen out
those who are less than reliable, it will taint the entire
project. It will doom the project to failure before it gets out
the door. It will be just one more black eye for ufology because
we would rather believe these stories are true than to learn
that they are fiction.


KRandle