From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 04:12:12 -0400
Fwd Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:35:13 -0400
Subject: UpDate: John Carpenter - Apathy And The Damage Done


Hello All,

Trash this posting now if you're not up for a 'long one!' You've
been properly warned. :)

Well it's been over a month and not one of the major abduction
researchers has stepped forward to comment or to express their
views on the matter of client/witness/abductee rights. The
apathy and silence on this issue is profound. Not just on the
part of Hopkins, Jacobs, Mack and the others but on the part of
the UFO "community" in general.

Why no one seems to see how ignoring this issue will open the
doors for more and worse abuses in the future is a mystery and a
source of tremendous disappointment to me and others.

Apathy is a poison that rots 'communities' of people from the
inside out. It is the "cancer" of groups and communities that
have come together for any purpose. It rots the soul of the
individual as well. Attitudes like; "what can I do? I'm only one
person," or "who cares" are an expression, a 'symptom' of a much
deeper and deadlier spiritual disorder/disease.

Apathy is the progenitor of entropy and death.

There is little hope for a community of people that will not
unify when it is called for, or police themselves. If the
'system' does not include the active participation of its
members in the job of self-correction or self policing the
entropy created by the apathy will eventually destroy it from
within.

The 'effect' of apathy is; people who are in a position to
exploit other people begin to realize that there is no 'social'
price to pay for serious lapses in ethics or in the treatment of
certain groups of people. The perpetrators soon realize that the
fears they had (the only internal stops that were in place) of
being exposed to their peers as users and weaklings is
completely unfounded. That it's "open season" and anything goes.
After all, "who cares!" The Jews in Nazi Germany are a prime
example of what I'm talking about. Don't ask, don't tell. Who
cares about a few miserable Jews?

Six murdered Jews turns into six million.

140 abductees are being treated like they don't deserve the time
of day by the man they went to for help and counselling. And now
by their peers. No one cares. Not the researchers, not the
organized UFO groups, not even individuals that are interested
in the subject. All that is served in the end is the maintenance
of the status quo. That's ok if you're happy with the current
state of affairs in ufology. In that case all you need do is
simply to keep your mouth shut when you catch somebody with
their hand in the cookie jar, and you go along and get along.

That is a living death for any group of people.

Question: So, who gets screwed in the end?

Answer: The abductees of course!

And who cares?

Well I do for one. I don't care if I have to do this alone. I
plan on being a 'burr' under Mr. Carpenter's saddle until those
clients have been given the respect that he should have showed
them (on his own) three+ years ago. I'm not going to lay down or
go away because I don't have a freaking army behind me. I don't
need no stinking army! :)

Carpenter needs to know that there _is_ a social and hopefully a
professional price to be paid for such an abuse of client trust
and lapse of ethical behavior. There is simply _no_ defense or
justification for not consulting those 140 individuals before he
sold their reports. If he is relying on the short memory of the
public, or people with short attention spans to get bored and
move on to something else and forget him, and those abductees,
he's dead wrong.

Damn the researchers for remaining quiet. And by their silence
condoning the treatment these abductees received at the hands of
John Carpenter. Damn everybody who feels outraged at this kind
of treatment of witnesses and who also remain silent. If ufology
sux it's because _you_ don't do or say anything when you really
need to!

Your continued silence on this serious issue guarantees that it
will be repeated in the future. More people will be hurt, used,
and discarded at the whim of those in a position to do so and
whose personal ethics allow for such behavior.

To all the apathetic members of the UFO community I say, "you
deserve exactly whatever you get!" Unlike others I'm not in here
just to create breezes by flapping my lips. I'm trying to make
this a 'better thing' than it is. The problem is; that many who
profess to care are only entertaining themselves or trying to
create a little 'persona' for themselves that differs from
whatever mundane life thing they are running from. That has
nothing to do with ufology. That is something they should be
working out on a couch or by spending less time in front of a
computer and more time out in the world interacting with people.
I bring no such 'personal needs' to the table here. I come as a
whole and fairly well grounded individual that wishes to make a
meaningful contribution to a field that deals with what I firmly
believe to be the most important issue facing mankind. I'm here
to work. Not "play" at ufology.

I put myself on the line to make you all aware of a serious
situation. I have made the notification of those abductees a
'priority' item on my ufological things to do list. You can help
to insure that this kind of thing is not repeated or sit on your
hands, keep your mouth shut, and let it happen. Either way, I
don't care anymore. I'm going to do what my conscience dictates
I must do. If my postings to Mr.Carpenter are "bothering"
anybody other than the 'docca' I suggest you simply trash my
postings when you see them. They are easy to identify. At the
end of the subject header will be the name Velez. As long as it
takes and as long as EBK puts my posts to Carpenter up, I plan
on seeing this through to a successful conclusion to the benefit
of the abductees involved. As I have repeatedly stated; I leave
Carpenter to the courts and to God. All I care about are those
people/abductees. Period.

Mr. Hopkins, Mr. Jacobs, Dr. Mack, Mr. Fowler, Ms. Smith shame
on you _all_ for your continued silence on this important issue.
Shame on all of you who are keeping silent.

Apathy kills!

John Velez, Lone Wolf




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