From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 99 10:57:43 PDT
Fwd Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 18:36:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Bruce Maccabee and Gulf Breeze Photos


 >Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:34:38 -0500
 >From: Terry Evans <tevans@tranquility.net>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >Subject: Re: Bruce Maccabee and Gulf Breeze Photos

 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
 >>Subject: Re: Bruce Maccabee and Gulf Breeze Photos
 >>Date: Wed, 22 Sep 99 22:33:51 PDT

 >>>Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:14:35 -0500
 >>>From: Terry Evans <tevans@tranquility.net>
 >>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >>>Subject: Re: Bruce Maccabee and Gulf Breeze Photos

 >>>>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 23:31:54 -0600
 >>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >>>>From: Don Allen <dona@amigo.net>
 >>>>Subject: Re: Bruce Maccabee and Gulf Breeze Photos

 >>>>>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:43:56 -0400
 >>>>>From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac@compuserve.com>
 >>>>>Subject: Re: Bruce Maccabee and Gulf Breeze Photos
 >>>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>

 >>>>>>>From: Jerry Black <blackhole60@hotmail.com>
 >>>>>>>To: updates@globalserve.net
 >>>>>>>Subject: Bruce Maccabee and Gulf Breeze Photos
 >>>>>>>Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 22:13:35 PDT

 >>Patient and gentle listfolk:

 >>>And speaking of jokes. I recently read an article by a woman who
 >>>was on the staff of the newspaper down there when it was all
 >>>going on. She claims that she and another woman knew Walters and
 >>>the editor... what was his name?... were pulling a hoax and she
 >>>claimed that she was told by the editor to make sightings of
 >>>non-UFOs into UFOs to keep the hysteria going.

 >>Now, let me get this straight.  Isn't Evans the same guy who was
 >>just trashing somebody for taking "anecdotal evidence"
 >>seriously? I guess one standard applies to him, another to
 >>everybody with whom he disagrees.  The above doesn't even rise
 >>to "anecdotal evidence."  "Unverified rumor" is a lot closer.
 >>But hey, if you're trashing somebody, unverified rumors will do.

 >>Jerry Clark

 >Her name is Kimberly Blair.  The articles are in the Pennsacola
 >Independent Weekly.  July 8, 1999. Vol.1, No.2.  Its quite a
 >lengthy article.  6 pages.

 >Is this enough for you?

Patient and gentle listfolk:

I rest my case.  This doesn't even rise to the level of
"anecdotal evidence" -- and remember, our correspondent was
trashing somebody the other day for taking that sort of thing
seriously.  Here, lacking even anecdotal evidence (i.e.,
specific reports by individuals who seem credible and whose
claims are investigatable), the reporter is reduced to passing
on vague rumors and complains that Cook and Walters don't behave
as she would under the circumstance. I am not impressed; nor
should any onlooker who knows anything at all about what
constitutes evidence.

I am perfectly prepared to believe that the Gulf Breeze
photographs and stories associated with Walters are bogus.  In
fact, I have long believed they are exactly that.  But if all I
had was the flimsy nonevidence in this newspaper story, I
certainly wouldn't be bragging about it.

Jerry Clark