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From: Robert A.M. Stephens <sti3818@montana.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:29:47 +0000 Fwd Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:49:17 -0500 Subject: RAMS - The '200 Questions' For Hoagland Debate Questions for Richard C. Hoagland from Robert A.M. Stephens, and aborted by Art Bell on the night of 12-30-1998. Prepared from sources that have interfaced and had experiences with Richard C. Hoagland. In addition, personal questions gleaned from 22,400 emails--phone calls over a period since 10-20-1998 to 1-20-1999 to Stillwater Mills, my company. Prepared also from the Enterprise Mission web site from 12-1-1998. Questions 144 through 199 have been omitted since they were pertinent and exclusive too NEXRAD weather data as featured on the Enterprise Mission Web site, and answered by representatives from the National Weather Service. For a full report, you may consult Borderlands Research Foundation, at http//:www.borderlands.com for answers to the false claims made on the Enterprise Mission Web site. (note: all references to events not related to the Enterprise Mission can be, and in cases, have been already, verified by the individuals-agencies involved) 1. Why did you tell a Dr. Richard Sauder that Washington D.C. was going to drop nuclear weapons on itself? RICHARD HOAGLAND LIED. DR. RICHARD SAUDER VERIFIED HE WAS LYING. 2. Why do you allude that you get your references from an inside Pentagon source, which would mean, pertinent to the above verified question, that you are taking information from a lying traitor? 3. If you knew this information from this source, why did you not tell and warn others besides Dr. Richard Sauder? 4. If you did not tell or warn others about this impending nuclear strike, and said strike had occurred, this would have lent you to being accessory to wholesale murder on a gargantuan scale. How do you reconcile this gross felonious incrimination of yourself? 5. You wrote the book regarding structures on Mars in the LA county jail. Can you explain this? 6. Why were you in jail? 7. Are you still referring to the Pentagon insider who is a traitor to the United States of America? 8. You claimed the United States, during the summer of 1997, that in the city of Phoenix, Arizona, was going to be thermonuclearized, to get the gold that somehow lies underneath. Can you explain this? 9. What source of information did, or do you have, to make such a claim? 10. Is your source an inside Pentagon source? 11. If you had this information and only warned the few people who got your Enterprise Mission handout in various malls and other outlets where you were passing this information out, did you try and warn authorities, your fellow Americans, that this imminent event of horrific proportions was about to come visit them? 12. If you did not, and the nukes fell on Phoenix, this would make you an accessory to murder on a gargantuan scale. How do you reconcile this gross felonious incrimination of yourself? 13. Your warnings to Dr. Joe Gill, for which I stand corrected in detail, consisted of warning him to leave the state of Hawaii since an asteroid was going to go down inside the volcano there and blow up the island. How did you get this information of warning? 14. If you had this information of early warning, did you tell others so they would not also die? 15. If you did not, why didn't you warn others besides Dr. Gill? 16. If you did not warn others of this impending asteroid going down the throat of the volcano and killing everyone in Hawaii this would have made you accessory to murder on a gargantuan scale. How do you then reconcile this gross felonious incrimination of yourself? 17. For the destruction of Washington D.C., the destruction of the state of Hawaii, and for the destruction of the city of Phoenix, what special equipment and early warning devices do you have that gives you this strategic edge to apocalyptic events? 18. Why did you loose your accreditation to all NASA centers in the world for yourself and the Enterprise Mission? NASA reports, and this information was on your web site on 12-1-1998, that is was because you lied to them? 19. Why did you misrepresent yourself to NASA after they gave you access to the KSC site in good faith? 20. Why did you attempt to destroy the life of Dr. Bruce Cornet after Dr. Cornet gave you exhaustive good service in research and other endeavors? 21. For what motivation would you do something like this to this man and his family? 22. Why is there a plethora of unsolicited mails and phone calls to my place of residence, origin to over two dozen professional people in the UFO community, who fairly wish to litigate you and from a personal level, want to do extreme harm to your person for what you have allegedly done to them in every way imaginable, financially, economically, theft of information, defamation, theft of moneys, loitering, embezzlement, and verbal assault on their professional character? 23. After talking to Walter Cronkite (Hudson Institute, alumni reporter brief), why does he not recollect you whatsoever nor does he remember you whatsoever at KSC or at any other NASA function? 24. The Washington Post of March 22, 1996, called you a, "a flake, fake, liar, a nutcase, a fruitcake, etc". Please explain why they would say this to the general public? 25. Exhaustive research shows there is no Angstrom Medal. Explain this? 26. A Mr. Joe Firmage in part, funded a grant to you to disclaim or prove that your claims were true or false. You disappeared and to my knowledge, this research endeavor has yielded nothing for the money you were so entrusted to deploy. Explain this? 27. Goddard Space Flight Center wants your hide. They inform me and others, particularly an LA Times reporter who wishes to remain anonymous, that he was there when you were there also At Goddard. You photographed copied photos from the moon flights and other space missions, while the pictures were laying there on copy tables under glass. Thus, the natural reflection is now what you are claiming is structures and such on the moon and elsewhere. Your photos and claims are fakes and frauds. Why have you done this? 28. The very photos on your Enterprise Mission site, in general, when checked with the photo archive at NASA-JSC, shows that they are crystal clear and have not the reflections as the Goddard photos have that you have used. Goddard says the day in question they were in a hurry and the photos had reflections. They regret this. You have exploited a falsehood. Why have you done this to the public at large? 29. Why do you not wish to be on any other radio show to debate these very questions organic to your world online, but only on Art Bell? 30. It is perceived by many that you are involved in collusion with Art Bell as an entertainer and nothing more . Respond to this? 31. Are you under paid contract with Art Bell and Jacor Enterprises as an entertainer and thus conclusive to such an agreement in normal practice thus precludes you from answering questions to your claims, and appearances on any other shows other than Art Bell? Explain this perception and charge by many? 32. You have a page sequence of 'Fireballs Over Turret Peak'. The photos you have used are taken from various NASA archives and are solid rocket motor exhaust plumes from vehicles on ascent from either KSC or from Vandenberg AFB. The craft in each case has been removed with a graphic software program. Why have you lied and presented falsified photos to the public at large in the attempt to deceive them? 33. You have never worked for NASA. You are known as being insane. Explain? 34. You post no NASA release statement for all these falsified photos, no different than I had to have Michael Theroux do at borderlands when he hosted my page and had the Smithsonian-NASA link to my painting sample at NASA Headquarters. In this case, I painted the painting, yet, legally, I had to post the copyright and ownership data for the public at large that it was NASA's. Why haven't you done this too for all these falsified and stolen photos on your website? 35. For the Pegasi star signal, what special equipment and early warning devices do you have that gives you this strategic edge to an impending landing on Turret Peak Arizona for the morning of December 7, 1998, over assets owned and operated by NORAD and DoD and other strategic agencies that were immutably not aware of this star signal? 36. Did you have another inside source at DoD or elsewhere that brought this revelation of exclusive data to your attention? 37. If you had this information, and knew of it, why did you only notify the public online, rather than NASA and other agencies that did not have this information and could have assisted you in this finding? 38. Why is it that the high school you attended, and the man you stole his name and identity from for the Pegasi hoax, a one named Paul Dore, have such similar names. The mathematical coincidence is too great for serendipity for this conundrum. Justify this? 39. Why would you elaborate on Paul Dore, using and stating his person, when he asked you to quit using his name? 40. Why does the whole Pegasi event trace itself back to you and you exclusively along with crude assistance from Terry Tim Rogers? 41. You harp incessantly on the 'Masonic' connection and its activities regarding NASA when in fact, it is the Mormon connection that is the prime issue back before 1986. Yet, this is never mentioned. The Masonic nonsense is basically a lie. The Mormon connection is far more compelling and a fact. Why do you selectively ignore one for another? 42. What registration wave did you deploy to confirm the Pegasi signal? 43. What was the Heim-Wave coefficient for determining the artificial nature of the Pegasi signal? 44. What part of NORAD's Fence Database did you have access to, to confirm the landing was going to be on Turret Peak, Arizona, or that registered such? 45. Why do you not embrace all number recurrences over and above 19.5 and 33 for your highly strange and peculiar postulations? 46. Why do you not use the more common and stranger recurrence numbers like 22, 77, 4.5, 99.7, 50, .125, 37.5, etc. which show up far more frequently than 19.5 and 33 in even stranger places and occurrences in our lexicon? 47. You have only a high school education. Explain? 48. At what point did you gain full registration for the Pegasi intruder space ship? 49. Why do you hide behind the anonymity of the Internet to make your claims which are fraudulent, then prohibit anyone from contacting you for further information? 50. Why do you postulate hyper dimensional physics claims, but use false and gross error of math, or no math at all, to substantiate your claims as is normal conventions of protocol in science? 51. You postulate hyper dimensional physics. Thus, then, explain the mathematics fact, called an argument, of the simple equation of +SOL><-SOL/E-squared. Which is the baseline for anything that is a warping of our space time place? 52. What is the interfacing of Femptophoton research in relation to hyper dimensional physics? 53. Under Turret Peak, you state that some machinery was turned on in very large caves and tunnels. Dr. Richard Sauder, the foremost authority on this anomaly, strongly refutes your statement. Explain or counter Dr. Sauder's assessment? 54. I had Model Railroad friends, which is my indoor hobby, and whom live in Phoenix, go up to Turret Peak to explore for old railroad and narrow gauge mining data. They are not UFO people or know anything about you or the Pegasi ship. They reported back to me on the 7th, and the 8th of December, 1998, that there was nothing up there out of the norm at all. Explain this? 55. You talk and postulate a lie of demented fashion about horizontal snow, occurring with no wind, and that it is falling somehow, which for anyone living in snow prone areas, roughly 80% of the country, reacts to your stated claim as if you are a clown and is laughable by such a postulation as you present such on your web site. How do you reconcile this strange statement and the public's reaction to such inaccuracies? 56. Why did the police have to be called on you by the family of Laura Lee and her husband who threatened you with law enforcement intervention if you would not move out of their home and not leech off them any more. Explain this? 57. You discuss some metaphysical connection to all our being with regard to six sided snow flakes. This is a scientific lie. Explain? 58. Why have you and Mike Bara stolen, non copyrighted material on your websites from The Weather Channel, Unisys, Accuweather, and other copyrighted and not for repost data? 59. Why do you use triangles and other symbols on the blurry, stolen, Mars images on your web site to justify your peculiar postulations? 60. Why do you omit the clear, recent photos of Mars, to also try and lend to your postulation of faces and cities and such on Mars--which in these latest photos we see what appears to be a varved, geophysical escarpment by natural conditions. Explain this? 61. What you have on your web site looks like blurry photos of a checkerboard game. What is it we are suppose to see in these? 62. Why do you have such a long running record with being found afoul with the law? 63. Define the Moon for rotation around the Earth and its own axis--in known orbital mechanical terms? 64. Define the Earth for rotation around the Sun and its own axis--in known orbital mechanical terms? 65. You claim and postulate items that are not science but gibberish. In this, please define high school level astronomy terms. One would be, define a light minute? 66. Define a light day? 67. You postulate that you know a great deal about space and NASA. Why is it that you have never ever worked for NASA, any more than I have, yet you claim you have? 68. You've never been a consultant either, Why do you claim this? 69. Why are there so many people who claim you've taken their money from them and ran away and never paid them back or did what you were suppose to do with said finances and are charged by these people as being a felonious malicious person? 70. Why do you insinuate NASA lies all the time, when multitudes want desperately to prove it is you that is the pathological liar and out to commit extreme malice toward those around you---but they somehow are never given a voice by Art Bell to counter these claims and acts by you against them. Explain this? 71. It is asked why I would pick on you. This is quite inane for a question, but for debate sake it is simple. You attack NASA and NASA cannot respond. I can. I do. I have. It is you who is a loud child of the macabre', that writes letters to the Whitehouse, NASA, and other agencies with claims that leaves no one a response. The result is that the entire UFO culture, just and unjust alike, is lumped in together. I take issue with that, now that I am here, and the plethora of lies that you postulate but insulate yourself under the entertainment skirt of Art Bell and anonymity on the internet so no one can confront your claims. You are a double standard in every move you make. For that, I take issue. I have left myself wide open. I have seen others take me to task and prove with data my claims and offerings are the truth. You do not operate under that protocol. The next question proves this immutably. Respond to this truth of charge at your person and volitional operation? 72. Regarding Mars and Cydonia, on your web site, you state categorically, "It's A Face". Since there are over 143,000,000 miles separating us from Cydonia, the very outfit that provided you and I with those photos for you to make that claim disagrees with you, how then can you make such a conclusion? 73. Since Cydonia 'Is A Face!!' in your convicted assessment, then, what extra machinery and equipment and technology do you have or are using to derive this absolute conclusion? 74. Would you share this technology that allows you to formulate a statement of fact that Cydonia is a face with other agencies or parties such as NASA? 75. Are you able to know the difference between a statement of fact and the ability to formulate a premise? 76. Your radar ring claims on your web site are lies and fabrications as proven by representatives of the NWS. How do you explain this? 77. How do you attack me on STS-48 and STS-80, when this is my line of work and I say that what is seen in these two videos, and all other STS flights, is the same anomaly of normal in flight, on orbit, operations. Regardless of Kasher or any other 'expert'. I am the expert on this issue and everyone in this field will call me, not that I am in error, but a liar. You are the liar of fact. Defend this rightful charge. How can you lie on a subject when you do not have the means or technology to prove the claim? 78. What technology do you deploy to attain the musical signal from Pegasi, a system of stellar objects that are rife with conditions that would be quite difficult to sustain or nurture any form of non radioactive life form, let alone one that can play music? 79. You not only erred but are a liar in response to the Black Duck Minnesota Submarine ELF array, even when provided with the commanding officer of the facility that you could call or email or fax and verify that it is a real facility. Explain this patent falsehood on you part, exhibited twofold, which you did not, have not apologized for? 80. You uttered that my question on the Art Bell show was character assassination against you. How can a question as to why our nation's capitol was going to nuke itself, as claimed and stated by yourself and verified, constitutes character assassination? 81. Why does Art Bell insulate you from inquiry? 82. Why do you insulate yourself from inquiry? 83. Why did Arthur C. Clarke call you, "his highly imaginative fictional friend"? 84. You falsely allude that gravity, the weak force in this time-place, has something to do with multi dimensional events, when in fact it is the manipulation of time and +SOL that is the true effect. Explain this falsehood as claimed by you? 85. Being absolutely objective, how in God's name can you possibly be among the "pioneering top ten' in space, or anywhere else? 86. When you categorically lie to the public, and are proven as such, why do you not issue a retraction when caught, like what I have revealed about you and what the borderlands research group has revealed? 87. You state categorically that NASA killed SOHO. You claim this is circumstantial. That NASA would blow up its own spacecraft. You are lying. Refute my charge with facts? 88. You state lies incessantly about everything. Then if anyone calls you to task about the lie, which is normal and fair, you then attack them with malice rather than stating your proof. Explain this juvenile and baseless one sided ignorant string of self induced logic on your part? 89. Your insanity is slowly encroaching upon you like a virus consuming a host. Instead of going out and getting a job, where do you intend to go with your macabre' claims of the absurd that are so quickly disproven openly by so many? 90. Have you ever really looked up the word, "Arcology"? 91. You show photos of skyscrapers on Mars on your web site. On the page in question you show one photo that is Mars, and another that is Cairo, Egypt. Nice move. If you vector both photos the same they show the same photograph. There are no skyscrapers on Mars then. Explain this proven lie? 92. Regarding the face and Cydonia. Are you really clear what a 'rectified' photo is verses an 'unrectified' photo? 93. Do you have a clue what you are espousing with statements pertaining to question 92? 94. You state that NASA somehow has purposely ignored certain 'geometry' in relation to Cydonia images. What grounds do you have for these charges? 95. Again, since you have access to technology applications that NASA does not, rather than faulting NASA, wouldn't it be prudent to share your technology with NASA to help them see the truth? 96. Why are copyrighted photos from NASA blank for association and copyrighted by the Enterprise Mission. This is illegal? 97. Do have any notion, in lucid fashion, what your tetrahedral claims of everything NASA really conjures. Explain this endless loop of virtual misinformation? 98. Does NASA do ANYTHING right or constructive or inducive to the mission at hand--beyond providing you with photos to self interpret? 99. ABC is furious at your linking and name dropping of their corporation. Explain this? 100. Do you have a separate unmanned space program aside from NASA and the United States' space effort, for which you are able to derive your 'data' for claim and presentation? 101. How many books did you write while in jail? 102. There is a recurring theme in your overall disposition regarding anything astronomical and NASA related. You insinuate that NASA spends all 'our' money (mine too, since I pay heavy taxes for being self employed), on these massive and very daunting undertakings off Earth. At the very last second, they: blow up their own space craft, hide the possibility of new planets, destroy evidence, wreck proof, fake photographs, change data, fake launches, hide faces on foreign planets, sneak all sorts of strange things past everyone including you, lie incessantly about everything they do, won't go and do what you want, does foolish things within mission profiles rather than look at cities and things which are obviously there for the beckoning, bases every move on the next Mason meeting outcome, Launches spacecraft only and after a thorough clearing of all Egyptian symbolism, and tries its darndest to do the most outlandish thing our species is engaged in--exploration of the last frontier, only to quench out the findings at the last minute. Then, have you ever gone to ask the fundamental question: WHY? 103. For 1-20-1999, you claim a shot over the bow of.....what. That NASA and the occultic involvement they have is such that they shot a meteror at HAARP. This is a lie. Defend this? 104. Why do you claim the fact of all things Europa and oceans? When in fact John Lewis stated this hypothesis back in June of 1971, when you barely were a lurid spark in Arthur's eye. Explain this false claim by you? 105. Why do you claim the 'face' enigma when this was first stated by NASA and JPL people as the first photos were coming in and they even posted the 'face' anomaly on the first released prints, attributing the 'face' effect due to poor camera resolution, altitude, sunlight angle, speed of orbital passing, etc., in 1976. Explain this? 106. In contacting NASA headquarters, they never received that self serving, prolix, letter addressed to Dan Goldin, pertaining to the Cydonia revisit, you have posted on your site. Explain this? 107. Why do you have the NASA logo backwards on your page, yet you have all these photos taken from NASA and not one attribute in thanks for providing the photos in the first place. This would be normal professional venue in other 'rational' formats. Explain this contempt for the very source of your being and life? 108. In the Space anomalies area you have purported photos of two objects related to the STS-80 mission flight. In one and the other you show anomalies that register bigger than the city of Seattle and San Francisco combined. That would be objects that are an aggregate 455 square miles. Large objects. Yet, in no Fence database registration during the mission flow of STS-80 is objects of any proportions are shown in any other venue for this period. Defend this lie? 109. How can objects of these proportions escape anybody's registration that are on your 'map' overlay of the western third of America? 110. In fact, these objects you purport on your space anomalies page, would be visible to the naked eye on Earth in broad daylight. Yet, there is no report of these anomalies by anyone but you. Explain this? 111. Why is there not a reference for these maps, as would be in any disclaiming revelation process? 112. Along with being furious with you, ABC and Ted Koppel want to know why his picture is on your web site in the fashion it is. Explain this? 113. On 4-17-1997, you claim there will be more analysis on STS-80. It has been 21 months. There is still not any mention of 'new' analysis by you. When will this additional analysis be forthcoming? 114. Being redundant, how do you have the technology and math deduction skills, along with Art Bell, Kasher, and others to make the deductions you do and claim, when the assets at NASA and its contractors cannot make he same deductions as you. Explain this awful discrepancy that effects me personally and my work with NASA? 115. Why do you not have a secret source in the NRO, since that would preclude needing one in the Pentagon, since the Pentagon is akin to a giant clerk's office in administration, not the harbinger of facts? 116. You claim that my attack of you and your data is unfounded and I'm stupid. Yet my claims against you and that others have made against you, have shown to be fact, no subjectivity to it. Then, when you are shown to be wrong, you resort to this is all some disinformation and slander campaign. How can this be inquiry on one side and that is okay, and slander on the other. This is illogical so explain this? 117. When you redundantly lie as you do, on nearly everything on your website and in public statements, and are found out, you run your mouth in convolution rather than admit the wrong and move onward. Why? 118. You are perceived as a liar, a charlatan, a bahl mahl, a faker, a phony, a criminal, a jerk, a man on the border cusp of insanity. These are not subjective conjectures made by otherwise mean people. These conclusions are made by people in this field of study as your self, at times being in this far longer than yourself. They are made strictly by the assessment of your chosen demeanor and actions. The question then is why this chosen venue of personal presentation? 119. Since you will not admit you are a lair and an agent provocateur of trouble, and yet others when mistaken admit such or when they are so bold to discredit themselves, they rely on others to re-verify them and their claims, why do you not subscribe to the same truth of revelation. 120. John Pike is the preeminent NASA watchdog scientist. He is utterly brilliant. In his often scathing criticisms of NASA he errors, as we all do. In these events he rushes to the fore showing and admitting and apologizing for his error, then moves on to the next topic. I had to do the same when not being aware of Mr. Czarnik. Finally, there was such a man and I posted accordingly my error. But in your venue, this was not a venue for further credibility, no, that meant that everything about me past and current and future was in error too. Under this strange protocol, which is a strong percentage of the UFO Field of Practices, then, being fair, you should be tarred and feathered by this same group. How come the selective endorsement of people and data? 121. You are a horrific pathological liar in the eyes that have dealt with you and the agency's you have slandered. Journalists that are aware of you say, "Richard Hoagland is a shameless man named 'Strange'. He embraces a form of scientific terrorism--mixing a little tiny grit of truth, with a mind filled macabre'". (Lennis Bee-Iron, The Village Voice, 1998, the preeminent gay publication in America today, science page). Since this is an accurate assumption, and I would agree with this, how can you justify the claims you make in general to the mainstream and other fringe elements such as the Village Voice in continued practice? 122. My data, claims, statements, revelations, and activities have been proven all true by outside parties from my self. This should be the outcome. In your case, when out and out lying is proven to be the fact, you do not acknowledge this same outcome of revelation about yourself. Why? 123. You show signs of dementia, and it is worsening, how do you intend to rectify this anomaly coming upon your person? 124. Dr. Steven Hawkings is an astrophysicist, among other things. He makes far wilder claims about our time-place and our being than yourself. Yet, since he bases his outlier postulations on known science as a baseline, he is highly respected. In your case, since you take the road of entertainment and tabloid type venue, you are perceived as a 'NUT'. Why have you chosen this latter route, rather than the former? 125. You have threatened people with intimidation and worse. It is why the very 24 or so people that have come forward to provide information on you, wish to remain anonymous, for which I do not agree with them at all and I have stated it to every person who has contacted me. In this, however, should you continue in this felonious behavior, someone will finally take you to task. What will you do when you find yourself surrounded by the very public you have deceived, and they want the truth from you, or at least an apology? 126. You discredit NASA at every turn. It is my long standing agency I've been intimately involved with. Thousands of times greater than your involvement with this same agency. Neither of us work for NASA directly. You never have. I have come along and wish to defend this agency against your stated lies. Why then is my action, to seek truth and divulge lying by you and Art Bell and others, and confirm this, is called somehow 'bad' by you and this industry. But it is perfectly 'good' for you to continue to traffic lies unchecked. Explain this conundrum of selective moral center? 127. At the bottom of the rational food chain, you could resort to, "I'm having fun", or, as Art Bell does when trapped, says, "it's entertainment". If this is the case, and it is, why can't I and others like me also indulge in this practice with the same unquestionable endorsement you enjoy? 128. The attorneys representing the family members of the dead regarding the Hale-Bopp comet fiasco hold you and Art Bell in part, responsible, for inciting macabre' claims of ships and other vehicles riding the plume veil of the comet itself. They are amassing a massive lawsuit against you and others suspected of perpetrating this heinous disinformation juggernaut that may have led to these people to take their own lives. Explain this? 129. What is your technology you have garner to which allows you to assess the Hale-Bopp data you espouse that NASA and other agencies do not have at their disposal of deploy? 130. With this technology you have, and since you are able to garner data that no else can, would you be willing to share this special technology with others so they may know what you know? 131. You seem to be alone in your endeavors of discovery. Science and discovery learned is accomplished by cooperation among all assets available. You are the only one on the planet who approaches this from a singularity. How can this be? 132. How can you be the only one privy of this data you espouse, and with such selfishness, you will not share this findings of new data with the very agencies that could and would substantiate your claims as fact. Explain this peculiar thing? 133. Within the mind of an Art Bell and yourself, you become 'confused' with straight questions of verifiable fact. But when a guest is asked, "how many times did you hit the alien", this is past off as 'truth'. How can this be the case in your mind if someone then comes forward and asked to verify these claims, as has been done with me? 134. If NASA lies at everything they do, which you strongly suggest, why do you rely on anything from them, like photos and such, at all? 135. For 4-9-1997, you indicate that there is proof of some connection to hyper dimensional physics to this page presentation. There is none. Explain this? 136. For 4-18-1997, you postulate with odd graphics and photos from NASA archives, nebulous, vague, insinuation about comet Hale-Bopp having a companion, an ulterior motive for being what it is. Why would you use NASA photos and data, who is a proven perpetrators of lies by your assessment, to substantiate your claims. It is one liar using the data from another liar to tell us a truth. Explain? 137. For 5-1-1997, you post why NASA would not come on air with Art Bell and yourself to debate the Hale-Bopp topic of data for which NASA tried to have Art Bell present NASA findings with the same fairness as the claims made by you and others. NASA steadfastly refused which incensed you. The reason NASA would not appear is because Art Bell, protecting you, his boy, would have cut off and censored NASA. In light of recent circumstances, you want o dispute this statement made by me? 138. For 6-17-1997 you claim to have proof of scientific origins of reverse speech revelations that somehow suggest that NASA is further lying. When this page is accessed, it is gone. Explain this? 139. For 1-20-1999 you still persist that NASA is ensconced with masonic worship. This page in particular about the 'bow shot' is blatant. I work for the agency in question for detail data with STS and other work. I have known and have provided links for proof to NASA directly that you are lying consistantly. Why do you persist on deceiving the public at large? 140. For 4-21-1997, you divulge a proof of statement that somehow a physical mechanical entity, the Hubble Space Telescope, is ensconced in hyper dimensional physics. In contacting the management of HST they not only do not have a clue what you are saying, but say it is not even in the paucity of science as it is known and does not make sense. Explain this? 141. For 4-22-1997, you divulge and demand that an investigation be summoned to examine NASA's proven lies about 'artifacts' on Mars. NASA did this with the latest photos. It shows Cydonia to be a varved geo-eroded escarpment. Until we set up a few backhoes up there, at 143,000,000 miles distance, this assessment is at least fair. NASA put its money where it was charged to do so. Why haven't you? 142. For 12-4-1997, you claim there is a connection of some sort between Saturn and the Sun in hyper dimensional physics. All things on balance, I say you are full of crap. Please defend that I am in error? 143. For 5-6-1998, you asked rhetorically when is a crater not a crater. You then show a very normal, abrupt edged geologic formation that is abundant my the million of occurrences on our own planet (I look at one of these anomalies out my upstairs window in the graphics room up on the side of the 10,000 foot elevation of the Mission Mountain Range---it's in the form of a 'face'). You then take this natural feature and claim it is artificial. You are lying. Explain this? 144. Questions 144 to 199 pertain to the claims and statements made by Richard C. Hoagland of the Enterprise Mission regarding NEXRAD radar and other weather related data, which has been proven to be false, lies, misinformation, and other unfounded claims, by elements of the National Weather Service and NOAA with the assistance of Borderlands Research Foundation. The latter site has the answers to the intended questions herein. 200. In your various claims I challenge them on all, all subjects. You have failed to prove them to be what you claim. You have been refuted at every turn. You persist to lie and present falsehoods. In my case, I postulated I was a fraud. It was proven to be not so--that I am in fact, who I say I am. Outside parties have proven this. Others still came forward on my behalf, taking issue with the spurious claims against me. From the beginning two names and addresses appear on nearly every mail from me. In each case these two individuals are Scot Bowlin and Michael Osborne. Scot Bowlin goes back with me for 15 years. He worked at NASA and has since moved on. I'm not sure what he is up to currently. I did asked him to monitor my mails and involvement in this 'field' of study. He verifies my personal claims as best as he is able to on his own volition. I did not asked him to come forward. Michael Osborne is an Advanced Photo Interpreter for the National Reconnaissance Office. He is, in essence, a spy. He has been watching this too from the beginning and has made no comment publicly. He will verify me if needed. He has divulged no secrets or anything else pertinent to the security of the United States of America. This event amuses him greatly. His assessment is that this community of 'researchers' is not ready to recieve any congnizant information openly since it suscribes to selective endorsement of postulated data that is spurious at best, false at the worst. I agree. There, now, that is some facts. My last question, then, since this list of questions is going up the chain way above NASA, will you admit you have lied repeatedly to this online and off line community pertaining to the UFO culture, claims about NASA and other statements filled with pathos. Will you admit this, since I did the same pertaining to myself when it wasn't true, to get others to defend me on their own, which they did. Will you answer these questions now? If not, and others within this 'field' allow you to do what you do, then this undustry needs to be kept right where it has put itself. The 'giggle' factor of choice for Everyman everywhere. sincerely, Robert A.M. Stephens NASA Documentation Program Stillwater Mills Contractor-Aerospace 406-745-3818 sti3818@montana.com http://198.116.116.10/gallery/arts/samples.html
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